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Postby Alpineandy » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:46 pm

I don't have a GTA/A610, so sorry if this is a silly question, but doesn't the GTA have a Rad bleed and a heater bleed :?:
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Postby BIG_MVS » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:03 pm

Dell Boy had some he paid £30 each for which I assume he bought on behalf of the "club" so being a member Juzz he should do you a deal :wink:

Failing that...:

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Postby Juzzblack » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:11 pm

Nice one, cheers for the link Martin.

AlpineAndy - there's definitely only the two bleed nipples, one at the rad and one at the thermostat housing, I've got the Renault workshop manual with a diagram showing the whole system.
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Postby clee » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:14 pm

buyparts still list it for the 25t :roll: :wink: C'mon now Juzz ! wake up lad !
http://www.buypartsby.co.uk/water-pump- ... eng=2.5000
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Postby JohnC » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:25 pm

Justin, A little tip if you have not thought of it before..... when you get around to replacing the pump, save the coolant that you have just filled up with by draining the heads and pump via the rad bleed tube. :wink:
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Postby clee » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:30 pm

I know GTA owners are tight but that's a new level :lol:
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Postby Juzzblack » Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:15 am

clee wrote:buyparts still list it for the 25t :roll: :wink: C'mon now Juzz ! wake up lad !
http://www.buypartsby.co.uk/water-pump- ... eng=2.5000


Doh! I forgot to check for R25 :oops:

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Postby stephendell » Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:13 pm

Cheapos are all long gone (there were only 3 or 4) but have the unipart/qh ones for £70.

I do know someone paid close to £200 for one recently :(
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Postby clee » Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:34 pm

Espace ones will fit .You have to alter the sensor port on the LHS .Chop it short and then tap it m18 to suit the GTA one .
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Postby Juzzblack » Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:36 pm

I've ordered the R25 turbo one from buypartsby. :)
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Postby Juzzblack » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:10 pm

Fitted the new water pump today. Couldn't see much wrong with the old one apart from some free-play in the pulley. The impeller looked fine though. Anyway, fitted the new one as the old one was noisy, probably due to the play in it. I took JohnC's advise and bled the system whilst the rear was still on the ramps, so the back of the car was slightly elevated to aid bleeding.
I started it up and ran it at a fast idle for a few minutes. Took much longer this time for everything to get hot which I took as a good sign. The front rad hoses got hot this time, the stat opened around the 90 mark on the temp gauge, maybe just before the 90 mark, which seems spot on as the stat is rated at 88 deg. I continued to run it, it seemed to take an age - again, a good sign - but eventually the rad fan kicked in. The temp gauge didn't go anywhere near the red and the cabin heater was nice and toasty. :D No blowing cold air. Everything is looking good so far. I'll check the coolant level when it's nice and cold in the morning and give it a small run to check it's still ok. :D
I can only guess I had an air lock somewhere as the old pump still seemed to have a decent working impeller despite the play in it.
I did notice though, while I had all the hoses off, the bottom hose was routed wrong. It was routed over the HT leads rail that runs across the rear of the engine and which bolts to the back of the water pump. So the bottom hose was sat too high relative to the water pump and thermostat housing. Maybe this has prevented proper bleeding of the system in the past and been the cause of the problem? It was also having the effect of pushing the top hose up against the throttle cable lever and causing my throttle to stick occasionally. So I re-routed it correctly under the HT leads rail when I re-fitted it to the pump.
Don't know why I hadn't spotted this before. I actually replaced the bottom hose myself last year but just routed it the same way as the old one I removed, assuming that would be correct. I did have both hoses replaced by a garage some years ago and the cylinder head gaskets done by another garage a few years ago too, so I'm guessing one of these occasions is when the bottom hose was routed the wrong way and I've just copied it since until I noticed the error today. It wasn't me! :P
Anyway, hopefully it's sorted now. Thanks for everyone's help and advice. :D
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Postby simontaylor » Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:12 pm

Have a good run tomorrow.....
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Postby JohnC » Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:22 pm

Looking good Justin :D .....but don`t be too surprised if you have to add coolant, as there is always likely to be a bit of air in the system after you refill it... and you may have to top up a couple of times also before the level stabilizes.
Best of luck on the run tomorrow :wink:
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