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Postby jaimiew » Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:20 pm

Not being mechanically minded, I tend to lose interest when my mechanic starts talking about blocks, heads, pistons and the general workings of the infernal combustion engine, but I do understand when he says it's FUBAR. In short I need a new engine, and he seems to think that a replacement will be cheaper and infinitely easier than repair.

Now I imagine that to source an engine for an 87 GTA Turbo will be quite difficult as I assume they are in rather short supply, so is there any other engine that can go in there without too much difficulty.

What would you recommend and what other alterations would I need to make to facilitate the new engine or are these things just interchangable?
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Postby simonsays74 » Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:49 pm

be the first to have a go with an audi v6 twin turbo and manual gearbox :lol:
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Postby LiamMcShane » Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:55 pm

Small block Chevvy all the way! 8)

(Not easy though!! :roll: )

Seriously though, I'd probably look for a Safrane V6 or a Citroen/Peugeot 3.0 V6 24v
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Postby clee » Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:14 pm

Have a word with Mr Dell ,he's got loads of engines sitting about .
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Postby darrenbiggs » Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:27 pm

Who's your mechanic?

I only ask because there are a lot of garages out there (esp Renault themselves) who'd advise a total replacement of the engine when the work isn't that difficult and certainly still economic.

Paul Sage had an A610 in years ago that had done barely any miles at all but had sat in storage for years. When it was sold and started being used again one of the head gaskets instantly popped - not an amazingly difficult job but Renault wanted to replace the entire engine including the turbo (!?) at an astronomic cost. Paul simply replaced the head gaskets and saved the guy a fortune.

Unless it's one of the specialists I'd advise finding out what the problem is and asking on here before you make the jump.

If not then another PRV V6 or a 21 turbo lump would be the easy choices :wink:
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Postby David Gentleman » Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:34 pm

I have a working V6 turbo engine which has been reserved for ages, but the customer still hasnt paid in full yet, so it may be available...

Ill get it contact with him and see what the score is..

As for PRV's, yes, Laguna or Safrane will fit (with relevant exhaust and manifolds), but you wont be able to use the Laguna or Safrane ecu..
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Postby stephendell » Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:29 am

87 GTA Turbo will be quite difficult as I assume they are in rather short supply


These come up quite regularly for between £700-£1000

Alternatives (Renault or PRV)

V6 3 Litre Early Safrane or Laguna From £250 sh - £2500new
V6 3 litre PRV 24V From £500 sh - £9500new
4 Cyl 2 litre R21 Turbo From £150 sh - £2000new

Or if you are feeling more adventurous.

Alternatives (Non Renault)

Rover V8. Bellhousing available and has been done before.
Cosworth 4 Cyl. Bellhousing available
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Postby dermotj » Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:53 am

you are all savages! desecrating such a beautiful machine with a rover engine!

These engines are all wet liners and are easily repaired - the hard part is taking it out and replacing it and if you are changing the engine you are going to change the engine youll have to do that anyway. Get it repaired and keep an original car on the road before they are all broken into pieces!

This is supposed to be the alpine renault owners club not the alpine renault rover owners club!!
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Postby clee » Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:48 pm

dermotj wrote:you are all savages! desecrating such a beautiful machine with a rover engine!

These engines are all wet liners and are easily repaired - the hard part is taking it out and replacing it and if you are changing the engine you are going to change the engine youll have to do that anyway. Get it repaired and keep an original car on the road before they are all broken into pieces!

This is supposed to be the alpine renault owners club not the alpine renault rover owners club!!



And coming from the club president makes it all the worse :!:
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Postby andyh877 » Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:27 pm

clee wrote:
And coming from the club president makes it all the worse :!:


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Postby stephendell » Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:48 pm

I didn't say I approved, I just said it was possible :roll:

Personally I would stick with a PRV V6 derivative, preferably the 24V :wink:
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Postby simontaylor » Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:55 pm

I heard that you can get a bell housing for The toyota V8 4.0 litre lump from the Lexus LS400. It aint much larger in size or heavier than the PRV as it is all alloy too.
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Postby darrenbiggs » Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:02 pm

"Mmm... sacrilicious" as Homer said.
I'm just here for the gasoline.
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Postby peterg » Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:09 pm

The bar steward car of Toyota Renault......doesnt bear thinking about!!!
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Cost point of view

Postby Tony Smith » Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:43 pm

if you want to keep the cost to a minimum then sticking with the original engine is the best bet. All the other PRV's don't drop straight in as they are in transverse cars and you will need to rob several parts off your original engine - and all of them are naturally aspirated not turbo. Also a non-original engine will de-value the car and most classic car insurance companies will not insure you either - I had to argue my case big time when I put my Safrane biturbo lump in - even though it looks very similar to the untrained eye. If Davids engine doesn't come through I will have a few quite soon providing current plans come to fruition.
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