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Prima Bargain Box !!!!

Postby clee » Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:58 am

They don't like to give much away ............... :shock:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RENAULT-21-TURBO- ... dZViewItem


It would fit though wouldn't it :?: :twisted:
Don't know what gearing it has ..
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Postby peterg » Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:38 pm

I would be interested...if I had £1500 or they would take £150...or credit!! :D
Will it fit???
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Postby clee » Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:56 pm

I'm 99.9% it will fit no probs ,go on Peter you know you want it :lol:
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Postby peterg » Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:02 pm

Ive asked some questions!!! Bearing mind how beneficial an LSD would be for my sport and the fact that one costs £800 on its own without fitting its starting to look attractive :D Hopefully I wont get drunk one night when I'm looking at it and go mad!!
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Postby stephendell » Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:56 pm

Will it fit???


Do you really want 5 reverse gears!
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Postby David Gentleman » Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:02 pm

clee wrote:I'm 99.9% it will fit no probs ,go on Peter you know you want it :lol:


Unfortunately that 0.1% means the diff is the wrong way round, the bellhousing is the wrong type, the input shaft outer tube is the wrong length for the V6 bellhousing and the gear linkage levers are the wrong orientation to work on a GTA.
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Postby simontaylor » Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:37 pm

sounds like 0.1% is ok, so long as you have a club hammer, a mole wrench and some string to hold it all together.

OR, maybe you will just take the LSD out of it and junk the rest back onto ebay.
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Postby David Gentleman » Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:50 pm

simontaylor wrote:sounds like 0.1% is ok, so long as you have a club hammer, a mole wrench and some string to hold it all together.

OR, maybe you will just take the LSD out of it and junk the rest back onto ebay.


You can buy a Quaife LSD for £700.
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Postby clee » Mon May 01, 2006 8:03 am

I'll get me coat :oops: :oops:

Stupid fecking french engineering .
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Postby si21 » Mon May 01, 2006 9:32 am

simontaylor wrote:sounds like 0.1% is ok, so long as you have a club hammer, a mole wrench and some string to hold it all together.

OR, maybe you will just take the LSD out of it and junk the rest back onto ebay.


Dont let a 21 Turbo owner hear you say that LOL :lol: :lol: :lol:

Apparently these boxs were costing teams over £8,000 when new :shock: :shock: some one posted on the 21TOC site; apparently information from a french site :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Postby peterg » Mon May 01, 2006 11:12 am

Oh well! Whats scarey is that Trudy is away on some hen weekend of a mate and I text her saying I'd seen a trick gearbox that would do nicely but it was expensive and I would have to sell her to buy it....and I got one back saying - ha ha but if I really wanted it I should just stick it on a credit card :shock: I'm assuming she was drunk!!! :lol:

Next time I get the box out I may well fit an LSD...is it a difficult operation on the GTA gearbox?
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Postby RED21 » Mon May 01, 2006 8:34 pm

Was offered this box back in December, but like most of us I just don't have £1500 spare :cry:
I sold my comp box two years ago as it sat under my bench at work for a similar period in bits before hand and the LSD was only a Renault sport modified Ford item? and the gearbox casing adapted to suit the larger diff case.
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Postby David Gentleman » Tue May 02, 2006 12:20 pm

RED21 wrote:Was offered this box back in December, but like most of us I just don't have £1500 spare :cry:
I sold my comp box two years ago as it sat under my bench at work for a similar period in bits before hand and the LSD was only a Renault sport modified Ford item? and the gearbox casing adapted to suit the larger diff case.


This is the Europa Cup diff

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It fits into the original casing apart from shimming and unlikely its a Ford item, mainly because it would need to be from a transaxle (which Ford have never made), and the 4 helical gears and crownwheel etc are still Renault parts (as used on the A610) which are unlikely to work with no modifications to non Renault parts..

If the diff was physically larger, so much work would need doing. You would need new castings for the box casing, and even the bellhousing would need the cast bells (where the diff rins) next to the input shaft to clear it, but you can see on the Prima box that the bellhousing is standard.
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Postby andyh877 » Tue May 02, 2006 6:43 pm

but what ratios are in it are the same or near to the GTA's? you might end up with a quick accellerating car that runs out of puff at 130...... good for the circuit or a hillclimber though.......
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Postby peterg » Tue May 02, 2006 7:50 pm

130mph in reverse!!! :lol: If this had been the correct box for the GTA then I'd have bought it....but £1500 for one that needs taking to bits, re-jigging and putting back together.....I'll just have to make up the odd 1/4 second another way!!!
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