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Postby darrenbiggs » Fri May 12, 2006 7:22 pm

How? :lol:

The definition's based on the properties and boiling points so surely that makes it Dot 5.1?
I'm just here for the gasoline.
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Postby clee » Fri May 12, 2006 7:46 pm

darrenbiggs wrote:How? :lol:

The definition's based on the properties and boiling points so surely that makes it Dot 5.1?


I dunno :lol:

Scroll down to the bottom SBF600
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/performance_l ... motul.aspx
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Postby simontaylor » Fri May 12, 2006 9:09 pm

Darren has stated the MINIMUN specs.
Lee's Motul DOT 4 specs are certainly better than the DOT 5.1 minimun.

What shall I do?
Actually, the Motul Dot 4 is £8 while the Dot5.1 is £6.
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Postby simontaylor » Fri May 12, 2006 9:33 pm

lee, how many 500ml bottles did you need for the brake and clutch system?
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Postby clee » Sat May 13, 2006 5:55 am

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Postby clee » Sat May 13, 2006 6:55 am

Brake Fluid Application Guide and Tips :

Due to the extreme operating temperatures of a high performance brake system, standard 'off-the-shelf' brake fluids are not recommended. Of critical importance in determining a fluids ability to handle high temperature applications is the Dry Boiling Point and compressibility.
The Dry Boiling Point is the temperature at which a brake fluid will boil in its virgin non-contaminated state. The highest temperature Dry Boiling Point available in a DOT 3 fluid is 572 F

The Wet Boiling Point is the temperature a brake fluid will boil after it has been fully saturated with moisture. The DOT 3 requirement for wet boiling point is a minimum temperature of 284 F.

There are many ways for moisture to enter your brake system. Condensation from regular use, washing the vehicle and humidity are the most common, with little hope of prevention. Glycol based DOT 3 & 4 & 5.1 fluids are hygroscopic; they absorb brake system moisture, and over time the boiling point is gradually reduced.

We do not recommend using DOT 5 fluid in any racing applications. DOT 5 fluid is not hygroscopic, so as moisture enters the system, it is not absorbed by the fluid, and results in beads of moisture moving through the brake line, collecting in the calipers . It is not uncommon to have caliper temperatures exceed 200 F, and at 212 F, this collected moisture will boil causing vapor lock and system failure. Additionally, DOT 5 fluid is highly compressible due to aeration and foaming under normal braking conditions, providing a spongy brake feel. DOT 5 fluid is best suited for show car applications where its anti-corrosion and paint friendly characteristics are important.

Whenever you add fresh fluid to your existing system (never mix fluids of different DOT classifications), it immediately becomes contaminated, lowering the boiling point of the new fluid.
For maximum performance, start with the highest Dry Boiling Point available, flush the system completely, and flush it regularly, especially after severe temperatures have been experienced.

Brake system capacities vary on differing vehicles. Typically 2 Pints (or approximately 1 Liter) should be sufficient to completely flush the old fluid and replace with new. We recommend 4 Pints or 2 Liters of Fluid to be certain that your system is completely flushed of old fluid- and this also allows for some extra fluid to spare.
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Postby darrenbiggs » Sat May 13, 2006 9:43 am

That's bazaar :lol:

Why not have Dot 5.1 and then call that extra high grade fluid 'Dot 5.1 racing'. Why Dot 4 racing?

It's confusing enough as it is with Dot 5 and Dot 5.1 when to my mind they should have given silicone based fluids their own numbering system.

Right. Off to the kitchen to mix up my own 'Dot 6' out of alcohol, sugar and shampoo as the Cubans do, it's gotta work. 25p a pint or best offer...
I'm just here for the gasoline.
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Postby David Gentleman » Sat May 13, 2006 12:10 pm

'DOT 5 fluid is best suited for show car applications where its anti-corrosion and paint friendly characteristics are important'

Put it in a bucket and wash your car with it..!

Sounds like it will do a good job of rust-proofing and bringing up an amazing shine! :lol:
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New Slave very cheap too

Postby si21 » Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:12 am

I ordered on Tuesday morning received wednesday afternoon superb sevice from Brakes International £55 delivered,

lets hope that it fits and does the job

Thanks to Simon Taylor for the PM's

Ground control to Mission (Major Tom) Brace ya self Sheila! well soon be ready for lift off :wink: :twisted:

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