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Postby John Law » Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:11 pm

Out of interest what sort of horsepower and torque do the most highly tuned street legal GTA's/610's run? With regards to Roman's claims of 400hp (wheels or flywheel?) I was wondering what are the most powerful examles from Europe, Auz, America?
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Postby johnj » Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:43 pm

i think kevin at gto engineering has a hillclimb gta running 2.8 litre oddfire engine with a claimed 600 bhp plus around 650 ftlbs of torque
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Postby Tony Smith » Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:40 pm

I think you'll find Kevin's got something exotic in his GTA - its more a silohette racer. I think it was some kind of 1 off development engine.
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Postby johnj » Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:46 pm

i stand corrected tony what has kevin got in his car i would love to know and also while we are on the subject any more plans for the three litre
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Postby David Gentleman » Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:52 pm

Ive heard about this 'engine' too, but again lots of conflicting info, ie its in a A310, or a GTA (and also a grass track car), then its rear engined and then Ive heard its mid engined, then I hear its got a set WM 24v heads (may sound exotic but by todays technology nothing special), then I hear its running an old Omex management, on an oddfire setup which they have never had that facility to run....

Does it actually exist, in a running vehicle, or is it just a collection of parts that could make a certain spec that hasnt actually been put togther yet (or ever will be).. Ive never seen or heard anything other than hearsay, theres no pics, no info, Ive even asked Kevin in an email and had no response :?: There seems to be too much hearsay spread around the net these days... :wink:
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Postby peterg » Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:07 pm

Sounds like a mythical beast!!!! :lol:
I dont think anyone (on this forum certainly) has broken the 300bhp barrier......Tony with his 3 litre GTA probably has the most powerful car at about the 300 mark.
I believe that with 2 turbos 400bhp is a possibility.....the A610 Lemans car had that much and was a production racer.....so Roman's claims could be real....but the lack of any evidence or even a photo of a car he's had for 5 years are more than a bit suspicious in my mind!!
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Postby johnj » Sat Jan 13, 2007 11:26 pm

david how far along is the twin turbo and have you any specific goals for hp or torque based on air flow of the t28 turbo
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Postby simontaylor » Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:47 am

this thread semms like good "bar talk".
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Postby johnj » Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:54 am

bottle of magners please
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Postby David Gentleman » Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:46 am

johnj wrote:david how far along is the twin turbo and have you any specific goals for hp or torque based on air flow of the t28 turbo


Everything is nearly done for the biturbo, its a very simple system. Im just doing other bits to the car at the moment..

I have two GT28s, each turbo is sufficient for 300bhp each...

Over 300bhp is my goal... :lol:
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Postby peterg » Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:52 am

Expect power figures in 2008! He has big brakes to work on before any new fangled twin turbo mullarky.......ideally before April when my season starts.......yes, you David!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol:
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Postby David Gentleman » Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:06 am

peterg wrote:Expect power figures in 2008! He has big brakes to work on before any new fangled twin turbo mullarky.......ideally before April when my season starts.......yes, you David!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol:


Shaddap, get her running first, then you'll have something to brake...(or break :lol: )
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Postby Stunned Monkey » Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:44 am

Kevin's is 3 litre odd fire 12v running a standard crank and crossbolted block. Conrods, pistons and cams are bespoke, lots of headwork and he runs LOTS of boost. That's as much as I know - if you want more info, I suggest ringing him up and asking.....

The WM engine runs a standard odd fire crank - apparently they never broke one and ran over 800hp.

He OWNS one of the WM LeMans engines, but as far as I know, has never run it.

He's also got a couple of Venturi 400 engines.

He ALSO has a naturally asp 2.7 in his 310 on triple webers with electronic ignition - I have photos *somewhere* of that. He's touching 100hp/litre on that .

As I said, if you want more info, give him a ringo. Lovely bloke, even if he is welsh :lol:
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Postby David Gentleman » Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:50 am

Stunned Monkey wrote:Kevin's is 3 litre odd fire 12v running a standard crank and crossbolted block. Conrods, pistons and cams are bespoke, lots of headwork and he runs LOTS of boost. That's as much as I know - if you want more info, I suggest ringing him up and asking.....

The WM engine runs a standard odd fire crank - apparently they never broke one and ran over 800hp.



Yeah, it was mentioned in an old issue of C.A.R, but no pics, info etc..

Who told you that about the cranks, they are bespoke forged oddfire cranks..
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Postby stephendell » Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:52 am

I think you'll find the 600bhp claims are for the ex LeMans engine. Fine, but it will need a rebuild every 24 hours :wink:
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