Tax exempt historic vehicles

Most Classic vehicles are used for fair-weather low-mileage "fun and rally" purposes rather than everyday transport.
Originally the Road Tax exemption was supposed to be after the vehicle was 25 years old,
but this idea was quietly scrapped about 10 years ago.


Please click link to 10 Downing Street website:
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ClassicRoadTax/

Please also send it to you club members and friends.

[Alpineandy]

this idea was quietly scrapped about 10 years ago.

at the 1st b.liar/brown budget, to be exact.

I noticed a pro-motorist political party has been set up. Can't remember what they are called though. This country is going down the pan for anybody who likes driving. Did anybody see the programme on road pricing the other week. They compared about a dozen people working in a factory up north somewhere and they were all much worse off - except for the boss who drives 40k a year in a Range Rover (because he travelled on rural roads). All their calculations were based on a big reduction in fuel duty - which may not happen.

Like theres going to be a reduction in fuel duty!!!!!
Its a f!*king scandal.......they are basically attempting to tax people off the roads whilst also monitoring who is going where at all times. Why dont they actually use some of the money they steal from us (motorists) to actually improve the road infrastructure?!

What amazes me is the guy from the goverment kept quoting this 44% figure for how much it would reduce congestion like it was cast in stone. Its impossible to judge how much it will reduce it until you bring it in. They only have the London area as a model in this country - and that is running at 8% less congestion than when it was introduced.

[Alpineandy]

They only have the London area as a model in this country - and that is running at 8% less congestion than when it was introduced.

It also has an underground system, Overground rail network and a bus system that has actually improved due to 'Idiot boy' livingstons financial imput (and despite his other projects) which are all running at 150% capacity.
He's trying to set-up a west london tram project which will cost a fortune, have less stops than the bus and be much slower
Road pricing may stop people driving to the local shop for 1 pint of milk, but you can't carry a weeks shopping on the bus.
Most other people here use the car for work because there are no other options. No usable lines from NW london to SW london or NE to SE (unless you want to go via central london ) etc. plus there isn't any extra space on on the public transport anyway.
You can't use Londons public transport if you have to be somewhere at a particular time, unless you have the time to leave 4 hours early to ensure you arrive on time!
That 8% reduction will soon become 7% (and continue decreasing until viable alternatives become available).
Yes I'm a public transport user

It would make far more sense to offer tax incentives to encourage employers to allow home working ,many of these ' City jobs ' could easily be done from home .That would get rid of a lot of peak traffic .

Ahhh no , silly me That would cost the Government not the motorist wouldn't it .Can't have that now can we .

[Alpineandy]

many of these ' City jobs ' could easily be done from home.

Most (not all) of the tranferable jobs have already been transfered to 'provincial' offices. Most people in the city really need to be there as they are the people that mix the technical theory with the practical in the relevant 'marketplace', and the immediate support people they need 'on hand'.

Does that sound PR/HR enough

[phildini]

I would like to ask Mr Blair why doesent the goverment lead by example and all the MP's drive around in Hybrids vehicles rather than those juicy Jaguars etc...., Honda did offer to sponsor those Mother F*&$%s MP's, but they declined it, also they used to give £1000 back if you bought a Hybrid car.... they soon run back on that one too!

Also last week I was following a DVLA auction cherished plates, with reserve prices of £900 going for £20,000+, where does all the money go? it is 100%+ profit, if i am not wrong DVLA is a Goverment run agency right?

LABOUR the sooner you are out the better!!!!! Bunch of ..........

Also last week I was following a DVLA auction cherished plates, with reserve prices of £900 going for £20,000+, where does all the money go? it is 100%+ profit, if i am not wrong DVLA is a Goverment run agency right?

Sort of.......the DVLA is using the money itself to fund its move to computerisation. Remember when it was proposed that you shuld pay tax even on SORN vehicles?? That was to help finance the computerisation too.....the robbing b!*tards!!!

LABOUR the sooner you are out the better!!!!! Bunch of ..........

I don't think we want any srtong political views or arguements on this site

I dont think we need a political argument....but its about time we got rid of them and let the next load of idiots in....who probably wont be any better, but at least they wont have the arrogance of a party thats been in government for a decade. A change nearly always brings some good....until complacency sets in!

Too true ,time for a change ,it matters not a jot these days ....................which is a shame

Next time you ge the chance to hit a politician with questions, my suggestions are:

How much of the revenue generated by fuel tax and road tax actually gets spent on the roads or even viable alternatives to it ?

Why do you keep claiming that taxing road fuels discourages its use and therefore helps the environment, when any first week economics student will tell you that fuel is the architypal example of a necessity commodity and has an almost perfectly inelastic demand - sticking up the price only reduces consumption by a tiny fraction, but increases profit almost perfectly?

Do any of you fools actually understand the concept of "conservation of energy" in physics? A principle that tells you in no uncertain terms how utterly stupid hybrid cars are ?

*** and relax ***

[phildini]

Also last week I was following a DVLA auction cherished plates, with reserve prices of £900 going for £20,000+, where does all the money go? it is 100%+ profit, if i am not wrong DVLA is a Goverment run agency right?

Sort of.......the DVLA is using the money itself to fund its move to computerisation. Remember when it was proposed that you shuld pay tax even on SORN vehicles?? That was to help finance the computerisation too.....the robbing b!*tards!!!

Please bare in mind that DVLA do charge for quite a few things now:

£80 for cherished transfer ( large percentage of drivers have cherished plates now)
£110 for retention
£20 if you loose your Reg. Document
Penalty if you fail to SORN your car every year, and etc........

I am just sick and tired that this scum bag government keep penalising the motorist.!!!!!!