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Postby simontaylor » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:32 pm

Just turn the key you big woose!
You know it makes sense?

15%, thats ok, you will just be over fuelled a tadge,

I know you want too, you'll me amazed...... it'll start first time.
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Postby clee » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:47 pm

How do I upload the base map ????? Off the car ..............
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Postby Stunned Monkey » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:53 pm

clee wrote:Help !!!

Slightly bigger injectors ,15% .3 bar MAP .No need for a 0-5v TP ???
Have got a bigger turbo in the pipeline but want to get it running as it is .



How much bigger? You can highlight and tweak the entire map by a percentage, you'll be within a few % of correct, certainly enough to be safe.

3 bar map sensor, if it's GM type, I can give you the figures, it's the same as Tony's. I calibrated it his with my mityvac.

You don't need the TPS, no, although it'll allow you to get better throttle response if you can wrap your head around the settings. You can use the zero limit switch to turn off the injectors on overrun. I can tell you a Venturi 260 doesn't half pop and bang if your throttle isn't *quite* closed!
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Postby Stunned Monkey » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:54 pm

Need to take a trip up to you anyway don't I....?
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Postby clee » Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:00 pm

Yes matey , that's more like it :lol: :lol: 8) 8)

I'm looking at the software and bumph and it just look straight back at me :oops: :?

Simon ?Was it was preloaded on yours ??I can't fathom it ??But then the Speckled Hen aint helping much .........................

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Postby Stunned Monkey » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:36 pm

Have you got a laptop? You need a PC with a working serial port and lead... Are you around one (week) day next week?
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Postby clee » Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:51 am

I'm always around Martin ,work from home .Thanks .Not got a laptop ,I'll see if Dawn will let me use hers ....................
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Postby simontaylor » Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:41 am

Lee, you really want (need) to do it in the car.
Not only do you need the ecu map uploaded, but as you can see.... there are a million and one settings and you will want to change a few of them as you go along. Just take your desktop out to the garage, you might as well because you'll soon need power for any laptop anyway (I now have a 12v adaptor for mine).

All I did was to load "peterg"s map for his 220 injectors, even with my original 185 injectors. She started first time.

Then I increased the fueling for the whole map by 15% and it still started and ran. After that, I installed the 440 injectors and halfed petergs fueling, again it started 1st time.

You can change individual settings while it is running, but loading a whole map while running often causes the motor to stall. It takes about 90 seconds to load a whole map.

Did it start 1st time for you too?

Just for now, I have taken mine off till the end of the season. Then I'll have more time to fine tune it. I have a particular hicup when I initially take off and the car stutters for a monent, where as the Renex is completly smooth, so I know its doable.... some-how.
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Postby clee » Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:50 am

Not tried yet .........................I've got to sort out the comp and lead .
Garage !!! wot feckin garage ? Maybe next month :D
New injectors are 214cc .
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Postby simontaylor » Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:35 pm

214cc, peter had 220cc, so the map should be sweet.
I email it to you.

Just get it started.

I got my serial lead off ebay, because the USB lead I had seemed faulty, Item number: 170134646195.
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Postby clee » Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:41 pm

Just ordered a cable .......male/male ,cause the only one on the laptop is female .I've just had a closer look and it's for a monitor ???Would it still work ? The Adaptronic is a female .
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Postby simontaylor » Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:58 pm

Lee, the serial port has 9 pins in 2 rows. Normally a monitor port has 15 pins in 3 rows. Get the right cable or it wont work. All I can say is that the cable I purchased fits and works.

As for the garage, pure luxury mate, could not live without it (them)!
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Postby BIG_MVS » Fri Sep 28, 2007 1:05 pm

clee wrote:Just ordered a cable .......male/male ,cause the only one on the laptop is female .I've just had a closer look and it's for a monitor ???Would it still work ? The Adaptronic is a female .


If that socket is blue with more than 9 pins it's for the monitor. Your laptop may not have a serial port if it's relatively new in which case you need a USB to serial converter, I think I have one spare if you need it?
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Postby clee » Fri Sep 28, 2007 1:10 pm

Yes please , just had a proper look and it's a monitor :oops: I'll try and change my Ebayed one to a M/F for the desktop unit .
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Postby clee » Fri Sep 28, 2007 1:56 pm

Ohhh hang on :idea: The Drivefart cable :wink:

If I connect 12V to pins 1+ and pin 2 - on the 8 way that'd power it up to upload off the car ,yes ????
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