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Postby clee » Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:10 pm

@ the wheels LD @ the wheels :lol:
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Postby BIG_MVS » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:41 pm

God these Skylines are cheap (and most cars these days for that matter) :shock:

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All that welly for Desmond??

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Postby EATMYPLASTICARSE » Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:15 pm

Sorry to hear of all the trouble u guys are having in the search of horse power, especially if it robs you of actually driving these great cars.

My old hack GTA atmo cost me £2,000 3 yrs ago and has only broken down once, and with the help of some great guys on this sight was back on the road for around £75.

She may need a re-spray and i never know if the door will open, plus other niggles but i love her all the same...................And only this saterday a guy in a 997 turbo wanted to race me !!!. How many £2000 cars get that kind of attention!!................Long live the amazing GTA !!.
never really ever thought that i would own a gta, but am i happy that i do!!.
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Postby JohnC » Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:08 pm

EATMYPLASTICARSE wrote:and i never know if the door will open, plus other niggles


Hi John

Long time no hear :( post your door prob, and niggles in General Discussions, they may be reasonably easier than you think to rectify, if you have the time, that is :wink:

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Postby BIG_MVS » Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:47 pm

EATMYPLASTICARSE wrote:Sorry to hear of all the trouble u guys are having in the search of horse power, especially if it robs you of actually driving these great cars.

My old hack GTA atmo cost me £2,000 3 yrs ago and has only broken down once, and with the help of some great guys on this sight was back on the road for around £75.


Got to be worth investing another £30 membership fees then :wink:
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Postby simontaylor » Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:55 pm

here here !
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Postby clee » Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:02 pm

wot wot !!!

Get yer hands in yer pockets ya tight feckers !!!


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Re: I'm Leaving the Alpine Fraternity - everything must go!

Postby MFaulks » Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:12 pm

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Re: I'm Leaving the Alpine Fraternity - everything must go!

Postby phildini » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:33 am

MFaulks wrote:
Tony Smith wrote:After nearly 18 years with my GTA my love affair with Renault Alpine is over. :( :


Instead of a NSX, for something different have you looked at the 6R4 if you can find one - the engine is pure delight :) 90 deg 3ltr V6 odd fire n/a 300hp std in clubman form, 400+ in Int. .......................


GTA = £6,000 MAX
6R4 = £30,000++++ :roll: :roll: and it's a ROVER!!!! they don't know the meaning of thorough bread engineering..... they use same technology for 50 years.

Might aswell go for the pug 205 T16...... I rather have a T2.......
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Postby clee » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:48 am

Thorough bread ??
Sometimes I think I'm on the RTOC forum :lol:
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Postby MFaulks » Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:08 pm

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Postby phildini » Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:20 am

MFaulks wrote:ha-ha++ :lol: yeah, self raising...

the engine is the only unit designed specifically for the rally application, and is no compromise. It makes the poor old PRV look like it came out of the ark, and just fit for purpose as a ships anchor... sure the car is a tin box. Given the choice and suitable pile of dosh, having Fiat blood I would go Stratos and tune for maximum smoke!


Did HONDA give them a hand? I just can't see AUSTIN/ROVER creating anything good....... sorry

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Metro 6R4

Postby Tony Smith » Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:51 am

I have stood next to one of this at the old Crystal Palace sprint when it launched at it was awesomely quick. In my opinion is the ugliest car ever made! I'm sure it is a Honda based engine though - possibly even the NSX 3.0 litre. I'd be happy with my GTA with the 3 litre PRV if it was running better. I want to change the management and run with standard A610 stuff but I just can't bring myself to throw more money at it.
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Postby clee » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:02 am

You don't need to change the management , just change the tuners .......
My Adaptronic is working fine now .All day at Mallory giving it plenty of stick with loads of power even @12lbs and a std turbo .It starts ,runs well , gets me home ......

You need to fit a pulley trigger and talk to Scoff .He knows the engine/setup/PRV quirks a bit more now as well as being ace with the Adapt .He won't pull your pants down either :lol:
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Postby stephendell » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:31 am

Nothing to with Honda I'm afraid Mr Dini.

See below:

Having rejected the Honda V6 (Austin Rover then shared a great deal of engineering development with the Japanese manufacturer), the only other obvious solution would be their own tried & tested 3.5 litre Rover (formerly Buick) V8 engine. Being that bit too bulky to fit in the back of the Metro, the decision was taken to cut out two cylinders and (literally!) weld it back together - hey presto, a 2.5 litre Rover V6! Fitted with a purpose made crank, Rover Vitesse racing internals and Weber carburettors it produced a healthy 250bhp - ideal to test the car until the final engine was ready.

The original prototype turned a wheel at a private airfield in Oxfordshire for the first time in February 1983 - driven by Tony Pond in plain red livery. For the next 12 months the team concentrated on private testing at a variety of venues including Austin Rover's test track at Gaydon, as well as Cadwell Park circuit & the MIRA wind tunnel.

In early 1984 at London Heathrow, the assembled motorsport 'paparazzi' witnessed Tony Pond drive through a film screen as the team announced their future rally plans to the public - the MG Metro 6R4 (6 cylinder Rally 4 wheel drive) was born! With a bold marketing step, Austin Rover Motorsport decided to show the cars in the 'classic' red & white livery reminiscent of the team's very successful 1960s Mini Coopers and 'Big' Healeys. A really positive marketing stroke!
Promising that the team would enter national rallies to test the car in the heat of competition, the team reappeared 6 weeks later on the 1984 York National Rally. Despite taking fastest stage times on 8 stages - to lead by almost three minutes! - success was short-lived as the car retired with a previously unseen alternator fire. Even with the low-powered 'hack' engine the writing was on the wall - Austin Rover Motorsport had a rally car which could potentially challenge the might of Europe, and also rekindle the success of its forefathers.

Throughout 1984 the car appeared on a host of other national rallies as the team attempted to develop the car towards its eventual homologation specification. All the developments (including wider track, longer wheelbase & enhanced aerodynamics) improved the handling & stability to such a degree that the Metro 6R4 won its first rally, the 1985 Skip Brown Cars Gwynedd Rally in February.

All that the team were waiting for now was to get their hands on the new engine to replace the V8 based 'hack'. The 3 litre Austin Rover V64V, designed by ex-Cosworth employee David Wood was a 90 degree V6 with 4 valves per cylinder (hence V64V), with belt-driven twin-overhead camshafts per bank producing either 250bhp in 'Clubman' form or 380/410bhp in 'International' tune. It was (and possibly still is?) the first ever engine designed specifically for rallying - most other manufacturers continue to rely on a modified production block and cylinder head.
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