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One for the Boffins!

Postby Tony Smith » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:47 am

Ok I was wondering whether this is feasible. Firstly am I right in saying all things being equal a fuel injected engine producing say 160bhp will make about double that power at 1 bar of boost provided air fuel ratio, inlet temp etc remains the same and no design restrictions are affecting the engine at that stage.

So if I was to bolt a supercharger to the engine (which will make boost from idle and should keep the shape of the power curve pretty much identical) and increased the injector size by 100% the engine would run fine on the standard ECU map.

Was just thinking that I have a set of 330cc (50% bigger than the standard 215's) injectors sat here doing nothing, If I bolted on a 2nd hand charger off a Merc 1.8 or maybe a Jag (any other suggestions?) And ran 1/2 a bar of boost it could be a very nice low cost conversion to gain 70 bhp ish.

Is my thinking sound?
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Re: One for the Boffins!

Postby andyh877 » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:53 am

Tony Smith wrote:Ok I was wondering whether this is feasible. Firstly am I right in saying all things being equal a fuel injected engine producing say 160bhp will make about double that power at 1 bar of boost provided air fuel ratio, inlet temp etc remains the same and no design restrictions are affecting the engine at that stage.

So if I was to bolt a supercharger to the engine (which will make boost from idle and should keep the shape of the power curve pretty much identical) and increased the injector size by 100% the engine would run fine on the standard ECU map.

Was just thinking that I have a set of 330cc (50% bigger than the standard 215's) injectors sat here doing nothing, If I bolted on a 2nd hand charger off a Merc 1.8 or maybe a Jag (any other suggestions?) And ran 1/2 a bar of boost it could be a very nice low cost conversion to gain 70 bhp ish.

Is my thinking sound?


to throw a couple of things in..... blower will use some juice to run.... and all the extra heat needs to be disposed of too
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Intercooler

Postby Tony Smith » Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:35 am

Could fit an intercooler without a problem to cool the charge a bit, I know you won't end up making all the power but I just wondered if the theory was sound.
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Re: Intercooler

Postby andyh877 » Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:50 am

Tony Smith wrote:Could fit an intercooler without a problem to cool the charge a bit, I know you won't end up making all the power but I just wondered if the theory was sound.


cue mr Faulks....
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Re: Intercooler

Postby Tony Smith » Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:23 am

andyh877 wrote:
Tony Smith wrote:Could fit an intercooler without a problem to cool the charge a bit, I know you won't end up making all the power but I just wondered if the theory was sound.


cue mr Faulks....


I was kinda hoping that, but Lee told me he's quite pre-occupied using a different type of dipstick at the moment. :lol:

Stunned Monkey will probably know too
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Postby clee » Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:41 am

Talk to Faulksie but I think you'll just overfuel it to high heaven ...the std ecu map will be of no use whatsoever .
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Postby darrenbiggs » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:09 am

Jag used to quote that their supercharger on the XKs etc used 70bhp to run it at full chat. Obviously it boosted power a lot more than that (overall) but superchargers are parasitic.

And yes fuelling will be a bit more complex than that.
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Postby andy001 » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:21 am

i was only thinking about this the other day but for the atmo engine :shock: :roll: supercharger using the old blow through carb setup. i remember something like this on a 3litre capri years ago .


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