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Re: JL Engineering Bi-Turbo 3.0 Project+full chassis refurb

Postby Miles » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:44 am

Yeah it will be a laugh though.
No doubt Jon viola will upset the applecart.

Good figures though, be close.

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Re: JL Engineering Bi-Turbo 3.0 Project+full chassis refurb

Postby phildini » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:41 am

Miles wrote:Yeah it will be a laugh though.
No doubt Jon viola will upset the applecart.

Good figures though, be close.

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Re: JL Engineering Bi-Turbo 3.0 Project+full chassis refurb

Postby jon_viola » Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:15 am

I love this project- cant wait to see in the flesh!

Dave what torque figures did you get?

I have to be in Yorkshire some time this month- are you planning to head to RATS on the 15th? I might try to tie in the two...
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Re: JL Engineering Bi-Turbo 3.0 Project+full chassis refurb

Postby Miles » Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:01 pm

No idea have not seen any data?
Bruntingthorpe, be best to wait for tony law and smith. And f50.
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Re: JL Engineering Bi-Turbo 3.0 Project+full chassis refurb

Postby stephendell » Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:25 pm

It also has been noted on this forum that occasionally the speedo needle flies around to full scale and stays there, that in itself is not too bad, but as a consequence the motor that makes the needle fly up, also drives the odometer, now if this happens say, when you are working on the car with the ign on for a long time, if you viewed the odometer, it would be racking up the milage


Can confirm the Panhenrich definitely does that sometimes which means that the already low mileage is genuinely even lower. Prospective buyers please note. :P

A quick bit of math shows that John would either have to driven or worked on the car with the igntion on for 94 hours without noticing the problem to rack up that sort of mileage.

However after lengthy investigation John discovered a completely different problem with Dave's car. I'll leave him to reveal :lol:
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Re: JL Engineering Bi-Turbo 3.0 Project+full chassis refurb

Postby John Law » Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:24 pm

Hey there, finally got a spare moment to post on here. Its not really a big secret or anything I just don't have the time to post regularly. Anyways the result was what I was asked to aim for- 300bhp at under 1 bar of boost. It made it easily, 308bhp at 14psi.

The engine (longblock) is completely standard and untouched just how it left the factory. Dave has the option of running up to 25psi on these turbos which should net him a sizeable chunk more power if he desires. For now though the car is very well behaved with a nice amount of power and torque. We were on the rollers for 5 hours and made numerous pulls and left the car running the whole time, temps were perfect and the car behaved well. The only problem was the bumper deforming even more that it was from the temporary exhaust tips, luckily easily rectified!

Regarding the mysterious mileage increase, thank you for the possible electrical issues highlighted (Jon C is the Master! I'm loving your input on the A610 cutting out problems on MVS' thread!) but this was more a memory issue! Current mileage- 70432.

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Re: JL Engineering Bi-Turbo 3.0 Project+full chassis refurb

Postby Miles » Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:14 pm

:oops:
Crickey hit 40 forget everything.
Then again you can forget a lot in over a year oops.
I had even forgotten how to open the door too.

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Re: JL Engineering Bi-Turbo 3.0 Project+full chassis refurb

Postby Miles » Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:02 pm

Can anybody decipher this to explain to me how this stacks up to Jon 2.5?
Apart from the lower Hp.
Just interested.
Theoretically how would they compare head to head?
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Re: JL Engineering Bi-Turbo 3.0 Project+full chassis refurb

Postby jon_viola » Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:42 pm

I suspect that the driving characteristics are going to be mainly down to the speed that the turbos spool up.

What have you set your rev limit to btw?
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Re: JL Engineering Bi-Turbo 3.0 Project+full chassis refurb

Postby MFaulks » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:58 am

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Re: JL Engineering Bi-Turbo 3.0 Project+full chassis refurb

Postby Miles » Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:20 am

Haha,
Thanks Martin.
Excellent insight, should be fun at the toll booths. 8)
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Re: JL Engineering Bi-Turbo 3.0 Project+full chassis refurb

Postby MFaulks » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:40 am

JohnC wrote:Some of you, with low batteries may have noticed how the needle jumps up and down on the compression strokes, it is possible that sometimes when it has an up jerk, it goes up and stays up...... it could have something to do with that situation.


.. sorry my mind was drifting :lol: being serious though, JV's needle goes all over doing a dance at ignition off, is this also related John? Does your guide in the member’s area cover this, I will have to check? Thanks, Martin
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Re: JL Engineering Bi-Turbo 3.0 Project+full chassis refurb

Postby JohnC » Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:26 am

MFaulks wrote: being serious though, JV's needle goes all over doing a dance at ignition off, is this also related John? Does your guide in the member’s area cover this, I will have to check? Thanks, Martin

Needle jumping on switching off the ign....... no, have never experienced that.... an interesting one anyway, but there are so many potential weaknesses (dry joints :lol: ) that give trouble in the speedo that I would go through all the points I have suggested in the Members only section and see if the problem is cured..... even if it is not, at least those points will have been eliminated.
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Re: JL Engineering Bi-Turbo 3.0 Project+full chassis refurb

Postby MFaulks » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:02 am

Sorry Dave / John, not trying to hijack :oops: but whilst I'm here, have you got out in it yet and put some miles on it? 8) as JonV asked, what's your rev limit?

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P.s. did you pickup any exhaust flange plates?
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Re: JL Engineering Bi-Turbo 3.0 Project+full chassis refurb

Postby JohnC » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:10 pm

MFaulks wrote:Thanks John. I think JV will need to take it out and send over to you for a proper refurb, it doesn't work at all half the time now, and reads low when it does :roll:

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