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can this be opened?

Postby mogster242 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:11 am

Hi all,
Sorry, don't know what this is called... Can it be opened so I can rewire, all wires in bad state or shall I just get a new one? If this is the case, from where?
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Re: can this be opened?

Postby MFaulks » Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:57 am

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Ced,

That's the Renix ecu throttle switches, you don't want that, you are on the Adapt ecu setup from Dave Miles, so you should be on a throttle pot instead ... not that old pile of poo belle :-) Go have another rummage in your parts boxes :-)

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Re: can this be opened?

Postby JohnC » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:04 am

Gee... Thanks Martin.
Whilst I was away sorting out a response to Cedric's question ... Finding a similar connector, digging out the special tool and taking pics, You say it doesn't matter anyway. :( :( :(
But having got all the info now, and for future reference for others, here is what you do:-

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If you are into electrical repairs in a big way on these Alps, I would recomend you get the correct tools. They come in a pack of two like the green one (the other is red) and there are many different type pin remove/install between the two. They cost about £20 for the pair, but considering the problems associated with removing the pins with small screwdrivers with the risk of damage to the pin its self, well worth the money.
But one VERY IMPORTANT point when removing pins from these connectors ... appart from the barbs which are flattened with the tool, do not hold on to the body of the connector when inserting the tool .... allow it to float. Hold the wire where it exits from the connector. There is a secondary lip inside the connector, and if you hold the body and pust the tool, the action will inhibit the barbs from retracting, but by holding the wire, the body will, move its self away from the lip and you will be very surprised to see how easy the pin will come out.
The other advantage of the tool is that it can be used to retighten female pins by sliding the tubes tool over the female pin returning it back to its original dimentions.
Just remember before reinserting the pins to reset the barbs.
Another small point seeing the condition of these wires, and having myself seen in Macon the condition of the wiring in the GTA turbo's and A610's, every owner should have some spiral wrap as seen in pic below under their bonnets in the event of insulation on wires breaking off. It will always get you home and it is so effective that urgent attention is not required as it will perform perfectly allowing time to get the job done at a time convenient to yourself.
It only costs about £2 for a pack which, from memory, is at least 1 or 2 meters in length from Maplins. Correction ... just checked with Maplins, Cost £2.29, length 10 meters, Code SJ26D, that is for 3mm int' diam', just the right size to wrap a damaged wire.
The pic shows just how easy it is to fit without having to remove pins from connectors.

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Hope this is of interest to some members.

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Re: can this be opened?

Postby John Law » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:11 am

If you get stuck I have laser cut adaptors that let you use a new off the shelf spindle mount TPS.

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Re: can this be opened?

Postby MFaulks » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:13 am

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Ced,

Unfortunately looks like it wasn't provided to you when you bought the engine and Adapt setup.... so no point looking for it, you don't have it, look over to Dave and John Bi-turbo thread in projects, this is what you want, I'm sure John will sort you out, I'm sure it was just an oversight... Adapt kit not much good without it... ;)

This is what you want and looking for:

Ragnotti Drift wrote:I've had some bespoke TPS brackets laser cut in stainless, works well. Got some for sale anythings better than running around with something like this on your car...
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JohnC - sorry about that yes, great post, and very useful, just Ced looking for something else. Extraction tool is good, where do you get them, and do you have a part number? - thanks.

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Re: can this be opened?

Postby JohnC » Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:27 pm

MFaulks wrote:.Extraction tool is good, where do you get them, and do you have a part number?

The "Terminal de-mounting tools" came from "Vehicle Wiring Products Ltd" in Derbyshire. Product reference is:- 70399, and I paid a total of £24.47 ex VAT, but inclusive of P&P.
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Re: can this be opened?

Postby clee » Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:35 pm

Just down the road from me .....
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Re: can this be opened?

Postby JohnC » Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:59 pm

clee wrote:Just down the road from me .....

So you won't have to pay P&P ..... some blokes ger all the luck. :(
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Re: can this be opened?

Postby The Saint » Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:49 pm

I have a brand new one of those switch things in the Glovebox of my GTA.
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Re: can this be opened?

Postby mogster242 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:48 pm

Thank you all for your replies

JohnC thanks for your write up, I'll definitely get one of those tools :up
I'm sure all this will be very useful for other electrical repairs in the near future...
+ will need to repair this one anyway for second engine when I get to that, one day, maybe...

Martin, thanks for refreshing my memory... Had a look in the other part box and the tps was there, on the loom :D

John L, thanks, you had already given me one of those adaptor plate ;)

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